tIcf¯nse tIm¬{Kkv cmjv{Snb¯nð thdns«mcp ssienbpsS DSabmWv ]nkn Nmt¡m. CubnsS sI]nknkn {]knUâv ctaiv sNón¯esbbpw {]Xn]£ t\Xmhv D½³ Nmïnsbbpw t]scSp¯p hnaÀin¨v Ne\apïm¡n. sNón¯ebpw D½³Nmïnbpw `cWLS\bpsSbpw A¨S¡¯nsâbpw t]cp]dªv Xncn¨Sn¨psh¦nepw hmIv]bänepw s]mXp {]XnIcW¯nepw kvtImÀ sNbvXXv Nmt¡m Xsó. At±lw Hcp Imcyw HmÀan¸n¡póp: {]KÛcmb cmjv{Sob t\Xm¡Ä Ccpó ItkcbnemWv Ct¸mÄ sNón¯e Ccn¡póXv. ap¼pffhÀs¡ñmw hnaÀi\§tfmSv klnjvWpXbpïmbncpóp. Ct¸mÄ AXnñ. hyànbñ {]iv\w, kao]\hpw ssienbpamWv. sNón¯ebsñ¦nð asämcmÄ. Bcv sI]nknkn {]knUâmbmepw tIm¬{Kknð AXp {]iv\añ.
{]Xn]£ t\Xmhmbpw ]mÀesaâdn ]mÀ«n t\Xmhmbpw {]hÀ¯n¡pó D½³Nmïn ]mÀ«nbpsS hnime Xmð¸cyw adóv kz´w {Kq¸n\v thïnbmWv kabw sNehgn¡pósXóv Nmt¡m XpdóSn¡póp. Fs´ms¡ ]dªmepw sI IcpWmIc\v \ðtIï an\naw acymZbpw _lpam\hpw sImSp¡m³ ChÀ X¿mdmhpónsñóXv tJZIcamsWópw Nmt¡m Bt£]n¡póp. Cu tImemle§Ä¡nSbnð BâWn \nÈ_vZ³. Fómð apñ¸ffn, sIhn tXmakv XpS§nbhÀ Xsâ A`n{]mbt¯mSv kacks¸SpóhcmWv. Fóp IcpXn hnime sF {Kq¸n\pw F {Kq¸n\panSbnð IpdpapóWnbpïm¡pó Imcyw X§fpsS AP³Ubnensñópw Nmt¡m \bw hyàam¡póp.
sIFkyphneqsS cmjv{Snb¯nð {]thin¨ ]nkn Nmt¡m \mep ]Xnämïp Imes¯ s]mXp{]hÀ¯\¯n\pSabmWv. XrÈqcnð \nópff temIvk`mwKamb Cu Adp]¯n\mepImc³ Ct¸mÄ F.sF.kn.kn AwKw, sI]n.kn.kn \nÀhmlI kanXn AwKw tIm¬{Kkv ]mÀesaâdn ]mÀ«n FIvknIyp«ohv AwKw, temIvk` ]m\ð Hm^v sNbÀam³ AwKw Fóo Øm\§Ä hln¡póp. \mepXhW temIvk`mwKamb Nmt¡m 1980 se \mb\mÀ a{´nk`bnse hyhkmb a{´nbpambncpóp. (1982ð Nmt¡m DĸsSbpff F {Kq¸v ImepamdnbXns\ XpSÀóv a{´nk` cmPn hbv¡pIbmbncpóp. \mb\mcpsS `mjbnð "F ¡mÀ ]mew hen¨p.)
t\cs¯ F.sI. BâWntbmsSm¸w F {Kq¸qImc\mbncpó Nmt¡m, tIm¬{Kknse amdnb {Kq¸v kahmIy§fnð Ct¸mÄ FhnsS \nð¡pópshóp tNmZn¨mð At±l¯nsâ Xsó `mjbnð "{Kq¸nñm {Kq¸n"emWv Øm\w. Hcp Imcyw Nmt¡m BhÀ¯n¡póp: sI]nknkn t\XrXz¯nsâ kao]\w KpWt¯¡msfsd tZmjamWv Dïm¡pI. P\m[n]Xy]camb coXnbnð kwLS\m sXcsªSp¸v \S¯m³ t]mepw ChÀ¡v Ignbnsñóv t_m[yambn. kwLS\m sXscsªSp¸ñ, Øm\am\§Ä¡mbpff hoXw shbv]mWnXv. AsX, Nmt¡m tIm¬{Kkv t\XrXz¯ns\Xnsc I¯n¡bdpIbmWv. Nmt¡mbpambpff A`napJ¯nð \nópw.
sI]nknkn {]knUâns\bpw {]Xn]£ t\Xmhns\bpsañmw CubnsSbmbn cq£ambn hnaÀin¡pIbpïmbn. CXv A¨S¡ewL\atñ?
Cñ, C{Xbpw hnaÀi\w tIm¬{Kknð A\phZ\obamWv. Xsóbpañ, tIm¬{Kkv kwLS\m sXscsªSp¸pambn _Ôs¸«v Rm³ Dóbn¨ hnaÀi\§fnð \qdp iXam\hpw icnbmWóp hnizkn¡póp. AXnð Ct¸mgpw Dd¨v \nð¡póp.
F´mWv Xm¦fpsS hnaÀi\¯nsâ ASnØm\w?
kwLS\m sXscsªSp¸v {]Jym]n¨ tijw P\m[n]Xy coXnbnð I½änIsfbpw `mchmlnIsfbpw sXscsªSp¡Ww. AXn\v kahmbtam sXscsªSpt¸m Bhmw. Fómð Có {Kq¸n\v Có Øm\w, atä {Kq¸n\v C{X Øm\w Fó coXnbnð hoXwhbv]v icnbñ. AXns\bmWv Rm³ hnaÀin¨Xv.
AXn\ÀYw Ct¸mÄ \S¡póXv hoXw shbv]v Fótñ?
AsX, Hcp Xc¯nepff hoXw shbv]mWv. ]mÀSnbpsS ASnØm\ LSI§Ä _q¯v,hmÀUv, aÞew I½änIfmWv. Cu I½änIfntebv¡pff sXcsªSp¸v ]ômb¯v sXscsªSp¸nsâ ]ÝmXe¯nð hfsc {][m\amWv. sXscsªSp¸n\v Bsf sImïphóv thm«v sN¿n¡póXv _q¯v, hmÀUv, I½änIfmWv. AXn\p apIfnepff I½änIÄ¡v sXcsªSp¸nð henb Øm\samópanñ. Fómð ASnØm\ I½änIsfsbñmw AhKWn¨v Unknkn {]knUâpamscbpw sI]nknkn AwK§sfbpsañmw \nÝbn¡póXn\mWv Duóð \ðInbXv. AXns\bmWv Rm³ hnaÀin¨Xv.
hnaÀi\s¯ AÀln¡pó Kucht¯msS FSp¡m³ t\XrXzw X¿mdmtbm?
\nÀ`mKyhimð AXpïmbnñ. AhnsSbmWv Gsdbpw hnjaw tXmónbXv. SnH _mh kmln_pw sI.sI. hniz\mY\psañmw sI]nknkn A[y£cmbncns¡ R§Ä ioeo¨XmWv {InbmßI hnaÀi\hpw klIcWhpw. sIFkv bphnepw bq¯v tIm¬{Kknepw {]hÀ¯n¡pt¼mÄ apXð Rm\pw hbemÀ chnbpw FsI BâWnbpsañmw Xncp¯ð iànIfmbncpóp. Aós¯ t\XrXz¯n\v AXpÄs¡mffm³ klnjvWpX Dïmbncpóp.
ctaiv sNón¯ebv¡v klnjvWpX Ctñ. Xm¦fpsS ]ckyhnaÀi\§Ä `cWLS\mhncp²amWóv sNón¯ebpw ]dbpópïtñm?
ChnsS sNón¯ebñ {]iv\w. hnaÀi\w hyàn]cañ. sI]nknkn A[y£sâ Itkcbnencn¡pó BÄ Bcmbmepw aäpffhÀ¡v amXrIbmhWw. _q¯v I½nänIsf AhKWn¨v tað I½änIfnð hoXw shbv]n\p t]mIpó AhØ GXp sI]nknkn {]knUân\p Iognð kw`hn¨mepw Rm³ hnaÀin¡pw.
]e Unknkn {]knUâpamscbpw t]mse sI]nknkn {]knUâns\bpw ap³ Iq«n \nÝbn¨mtWm kwLS\m sXscsªSp¸v \S¯póXv?
Fóp Rm³ ]dbpónñ. Fómð ]e Imcy§fpw ap³Iq«n \nÝbn¨XmsWó {]XoXn AWnIÄ¡nSbnð krjv«n¡s¸«n«pïv. AXn\p¯chmZnbpw ]mÀSn t\XrXzamWv.
ctaiv sNón¯e Xsó sI]nknkn {]knUâmIWw Fóp \nÀºÔaptïm?
tIm¬{Kknð Hcp t\Xmhpw A\nhmcy\ñ. Bcp amdnbmepw BImiw CSnªphognñ. Hcp amäw Dïmbmepw A]ISanñ. ]t£ Rm³ Dóbn¡pó hnaÀi\w CXn\p thïnbñ Xmtg I½nänIÄ \oÀPohamhpóXv XSbm³ thïnbmWv.
]pXnb t\XrXzw sI]nknkn¡v DïmhWsaóv IcpXpóptïm?
Rm³ CXns\sbmópw hyàn]cambn ImWpó Bfñ. Rm³ BhÀ¯n¡póp, hyànbñ, ssienbpw kao]\hpamWv amtdïXv.
sI]nknkn {]knUâmhm³ tbmKyXbpff aäp ]ecpantñ.
Bcv {]knUâmhpóp FóXñ {]iv\saóv Rm³ ]dªphtñm
hn Fw kp[nc³ t\XrXz¯ntebv¡v hcpóXnð F´mWv A`n{]mbw?
Gsd Ignhpff t\XmhmWv kp[oc³. ]¯p hÀjambn ]mÀesaâdn Øm\w AS¡w `mchmlnXzansñ¦nepw sI]nknkn t\Xm¡tf¡mÄ BßmÀYambn HmSn\Sóv {]hÀ¯n¡pIbmWv kp[oc³.
kwLS\m sXscsªSp¸v {]Jym]n¨mð sI]nknknbpw {]knUâpsañmw A{]kàamsWó Xm¦fpsS {]kvXmh\bnð Dd¨v \nð¡póptïm?
]dª Imcy§Ä Rm³ Hcn¡epw amän ]dbmdnñ.
Xm¦Ä \S¯nbXv `cWLS\mewL\amsWó hn[ambncpóp sNón¯ebpsS {]XnIcWw?
hnaÀi\§sf AXnsâ Kuch¯nð FSp¡mªXpsImïmWnXv. tIm¬{Kkv `cWLS\ F\n¡dnbmw.
sI]nknkn t\XrXzw sXcsªSp¸nt\mS\p_Ôn¨v IqSnbmtemN\IÄ Hópw \S¯nbntñ?
AXp \St¯ïXv s]mfnän¡ð A^tbgvkv I½änbmWv. AXv hnfn¨v Ip«m\pw t\XrXzw X¿mdmbnñ. AXnð NÀ¨ sNbvXpsh¦nð Imcy§Ä C{Xbpw hjfmhnñmbncpóp.
{]iv\]cnlmc¯n\v D½³Nmïn aptóm«v hcm¯sX´mWv?
sI]nknkn {]knUâpw \nbak` I£nt\Xmhpw Hcpan¨v \nóv ssIImcyw sNt¿ï hnjbamWnsXóp Rm³ ]dªncpóp. Fómð B hnaÀi\hpw AÀln¡pó Kucht¯msS IW¡nseSp¯nñ.
{Kq¸nkamtWm Ct¸mgpw ]mÀSnbnse {]iv\w?
]ïs¯ {Kq¸nkw Cónñ. ]ïv hnhml¯nð ]s¦Sp¡póXnð t]mepw {Kq¸nkw ImWmambncpóp. Fómð {Kq¸nkw Ahkm\n¨pshóv ]dbpóXnð AÀYanñ. Ct¸mgpw sI]nknkn {]knUâpw {]Xn]£ t\Xmhpw AS¡apffhÀ {Kq¸pIfmbn \S¡pIbmWv. ChÀ B Øm\§fnð Ccn¡pt¼mÄ Fñmhscbpw Hs¯mcpan¸n¡pó iànIfmbmWv AWnIÄ
ImWpóXv. AXnepw ]mÀSn t\XrXzw ]cmPbamWv.
A\p`h¯nsâ ASnØm\¯nð {Kq¸nks¯ Ipdn¨v F´mWv ]dbm\pffXv?
hn`mKnbX {]Øm\¯n\v KpWw sN¿nñ. ZoÀLImew Rm\pw {Kq¸pambn \SóXmWv. Hcp KpWhpw Dïmbnñ. {Kq¸pambn \S¡pó tIm¬{Kkv t\Xm¡Ä C\nsb¦nepw Bß]cntim[\ \S¯Ww.
tIcf¯nse tIm¬{Kknse {]iv\§fnð F sI BâWn ]gbXpt]mse CSs]Spóptïm?
Cñ. Ignbpó{X \nÈ_vZ\mWv At±lw. Xsâ A\pbmbnIÄ (D½³Nmïn DĸsS) C¡mcyw \nÀhln¡psaómbncpóp At±l¯nsâ {]Xo£. Fómð AXpïmbnsñóXv asämcp Imcyw. t\Xm¡sfñmw AhchcpsS {Kq¸nsâ ]ndsIbmWv. Hcp t\XrXzhpw s]Às^IvSv Añ.
ctaiv sNón¯ebpsS t\XrXz¯nepïmb hnime sF {Kq¸ns\ Ipdn¨v F´mWv A`n{]mbw?
hnime sF {Kq¸v FóXv XnIª AhkchmZ]camb Iq«psI«mWv. ]gb sF {Kq¸v NnXdnt¸mbn. AXnse IjvW§fpw sNón¯ebpsS aqómw {Kq¸pw hbemÀ chnbpsS \memw {Kq¸psañmw IqSnt¨ÀóXmWv hnime sF {Kq¸v. CsXmópw ]mÀ«n¡pw AWnIÄ¡pw Hcp Xc¯nepw KpWw sN¿póXñ. Xsóbpañ, sI]nknkn {]knUânsâ Itkcbnencpóv HcmÄ C¯cw {Kq¸n\v t\XrXzw \ðIpóXv XnI¨pw ZuÀ`mKyIcamWv.
sI IcpWmIct\mSv tIcf¯nse tIm¬{Kkv t\XrXzw kzoIcn¡pó \ne]mSns\ Ipdn¨mbncpóphtñm Xm¦fpsS asämcp hnaÀi\w. F´mWXn\p ImcWw?
sI.IcpWmIc³ C´ybnse apXnÀó t\XmhmWv. At±lw tIm¬{Kkv {]Øm\¯n\p\ðInb kw`mh\IÄ hneaXn¡phm\mIm¯XmWv. {]tXyI kmlNcy¯nð ]mÀ«nhnSpIbpw kzta[bm Xncn¨phcnIbpw sNbvXp. ]mÀ«nbnte¡v Xncn¨phó IcpWmIcs\ DÄs¡mÅphm³ Fñmhcpw X¿mdmhWw. At±l¯nsâ hm¡pIÄ¡v AÀln¡póhne Ið¸n¡Ww. Fómð IcpWmIcs\ DÄs¡mÅphm\pw AwKoIcn¡phm\pw sI.]n.kn.kn t\XrXzw X¿mdmbn«nñ. sNón¯ebv¡pw D½³Nmïn¡pw CXnð ]¦pïv.
sI. apcfo[cs\ Xncns¨Sp¡phm³ F´mWv XSÊw?
tIcf¯nse tIm¬{Kkv t\XrXz¯nsâ asämcp hogvNbmWnXv. apcfo[cs\ Ct¸mÄ Xncns¨Spt¡ïóv sI.]n.kn.kn FIvknIyp«ohv FSp¯ Xocpam\w icnbmbnñ. B Xocpam\s¯ hnaÀin¡phm³ ]mSnsñó \ne]mSnt\mSpw Rm³ tbmPn¡pónñ. F´psImïmWv ChÀ apcfo[cs\ Xncns¨Sp¡m¯sXóv hyàam¡Ww. ctaiv sNón¯e sI.]n.kn.kn {]knUâmb tijw FdWmIpf¯p\Só tIm¬{Kkv kt½f\w ssIs¡mï cmjv{Sob {]tab¯nð tIm¬{Kknte¡v Hcp {]hÀ¯I³ hcpóXn\pÅ tbmKyXbmbn cïpImcy§Ä ]dbpóp: tIm¬{Kknsâ \b§tfmSv tbmPn¡pI, tkmWnbmKmÔnbpsS t\XrXzw AwKoIcn¡pI. CXpcïpw apcfo[c³ AwKoIcn¡póp. ]nsóbpw ChÀ At±ls¯ ]pd¯p\nÀ¯póXnsâ s]mcpÄ aäpNneXmWv.
apcfo[ct\mSv sNón¯ebpw D½³Nmïnbpw aäpw ]Iho«pIbmtWm?
A§s\ ]Iho«n Ahkm\n¸n¡mhpó ]mÀ«nbñ tIm¬{Kkv.
sI.]n.kn.kn t\XrXz¯ns\Xnsc Xm¦Ä Dóbn¡pó ]ckyhnaÀi\w ssl¡am³Unsâ {i²bnð s]«n«ptïm?
kwLS\m sXcsªSp¸nse A]mIXIÄ apXð sI.apcfo[csâ hnjb¯nðhsc F\n¡pÅ ]cmXn Rm³ ssl¡am³Un\p kaÀ¸n¨n«pïv.
Fs´¦nepw \S]Snbpïmtbm?
Adnbnñ. Fómð `cWm[nImcnsb \nÝbn¨ tijw kwLS\m sXcsªSp¸ns\Ipdn¨pÅ A`n{]mb {]IS\§Ä \S¯ns¡mïncn¡póXv ]e t\Xm¡fpw \nÀ¯nbXmbnImWpóp.
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aäpNne t\Xm¡fpw Xm¦Ä]dbpóXnt\mSv tbmPn¡pópïtñm?
apñ¸Ån cmaN{µ³, sI.hn.tXmakv, cmaN{µ³ amÌÀ, Sn.F¨v apkvX^ XpS§nbhÀ kam\a\kvIcmWv. FópIcpXn R§Ä tbmKw IqSnbns«mópanñ. C\nbpw {Kq¸nsâssienbnð {]hÀ¯n¡phm³ Xmð¸cyanñ. hn`mKobX KpWwsN¿nsñómWv Rm³ ]Tn¨ ]mTw.
tIcf¯nð F³UnF^v DbÀ¯nbncn¡pó Xo{hhmZ shñphnfnsb A]e]n¡phm³ tIm¬{Kkv t\XrXzw X¿mdmbXv F´psImïmW?
Xo{hhmZs¯ HcpXc¯nepw t{]mÕmln¸n¡cpsXómWv tIm¬{Kkv \bw.
F³.Un.F^ns\ t]scSp¯v hnaÀin¡phm³ t]mepw D½³Nmïntbm sNón¯etbm X¿mdmbn«nñtñm?
GsX¦nepw t\Xm¡Ä F´p]dbpópshóXñ, tIm¬{Kkv C¯cw {]Øm\§Äs¡Xnsc Fsóópw iàamb \ne]mSmWv kzoIcn¡póXv.
Ignª sXcsªSp¸nð tIm¬{Kkn\v F³Un.F^pambn clky_Ôw Dïmbncpóntñ?
F³.Un.F^pambn tIm¬{Kkv thZn ]¦nSpItbm Hón¨p {]hÀ¯n¡pItbm sNbvXn«nñ.
apÉow eoKnsâ kao]\hpw F³UnF^ns\ hfÀ¯pw hn[ambncpóntñ?
Fóp Rm³ IcpXpónñ.
Xo{hhmZ {]Øm\§sf F§s\ ssIImcyw sN¿msaómWv A`n{]mbw?
IÀi\ambpw hÀ¤ob iànItfbpw Xo{hhmZnItfbpw Häs¸Sp¯Ww. C¡mcy¯nse¦nepw tIm¬{Kkpw, kn.]n.sF.F½pw tbmPn¡Ww. Hón¨p Iym¼bn³ \S¯phm³ hnjaamsW¦nð Htckao]\w kzoIcn¡phms\¦nepw IgnbWw.
F³UnF^ns\ \ntcm[n¡Wsaóv A`n{]mbaptïm?
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\ntcm[\w càkm£n ]cnthjamWv krjvSn¡pI.
amWnþtPmk^v eb\¯nð tIm¬{Kkv F´n\mWv C{Xbpw AklnjvWpX Im«nbXv?
C¡mcy¯nð tIm¬{Kkv t\XrXz¯nsâ {]XnIcWw ]cn[n IhnªXmbn. Ct¸mÄ eb\w bmYmÀ°yamIpIbpw sNbvXp.
eb\¯n\v _nj¸pamcpsS t{]cW Dïmbncn¡póXmbn IcpXpóptïm?
F\n¡dnbnñ.
FðUnF^v kÀ¡mcns\ F§s\ hnebncp¯póp?
hnIkt\mòpJamb kao]\ambncpóp kÀ¡mÀ DbÀ¯n¸nSnt¡ïnbncpóXv. \nt£]IkulrZ kwØm\am¡Wsaóv Ct¸mÄ kÀ¡mÀ ]dbpóXv \mephÀjw apt¼ XpS§Wambncpóp.
Hcp]mSv P\t£a ]²XnIÄ \S¸nem¡nb FðUnF^v kÀ¡mÀ hoïpw A[nImc¯nð hcphm\pÅ km[yXbntñ?
F{X \ñ kÀ¡mÀ Bbmepw khntijamb a\imkv{XamWv tIcfobcptSXv. Hópamdn ]co£n¡WsaómWv `qcn`mKhpw IcpXpI. Fómð _wKmÄ A§s\bñ. C\n Im¯ncpóp ImWmw.
IS¸mSv: tZim`nam\n hmcnI